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Recently retreived Baha'i censuses from several countries exposes Baha'i lies more...
"During my time as a Baha'i, I saw potential converts lied to by Baha'is regarding the membership of the Faith. The Baha'is, especially the Baha'i leadership, have always grossly inflated the 'official' numbers in order to present an inaccurate picture to the world (as well as to individuals considering conversion) and to make the Faith seem much more successful and influential than it really is. " --Scott
Professor Juan Cole of the University of Michigan commented in April 2001 that, since 1968, 50% of the people who entered the bahai faith have left it. According to him, the usual figure for most Christian denominations is approximately 80% retention, meaning about only 20% decide to leave once they become a member. See Professor Cole's comment below that even 5 million Baha'is worldwide is exaggerated by the Baha'i administration.
Baha'is of India lost 1 million membership !
Baha'is of India have always exaggerated their figure in order to achieve minority status in the country. Baha'is used to claim that they are 2.2 millions in India while official census of India states that they are just 4572.
Absolutely False Baha’i Census of India !!
People lie all the time even to themselves and surprisingly, it does work! Self-deception is a process of denying or rationalizing away the relevance, significance, or importance of opposing evidence and logical argument. Self-deception involves convincing oneself of a truth or lack of truth so that one does not reveal any self-knowledge of the deception. When it comes to Baha’i census it breaks all the barriers of deception.
Bahá'í census is a skewed fiction.
If one surfs the NET he is bound to come across such slogans like,
“Bahá'í Faith the fastest growing Religion”, “Bahá'í Faith the most
widespread Religion”, “Bahá'í Faith the most comfortable Religion” so on
and so forth. These slogans are nothing but skewed fiction inserted by
Bahá'í Administration itself.
The claim of seven million Bahá'ís across the world with 2.2 millions in
India has been deflated by Official Census of Government of India.
THE CASE OF INDIA
Though the Bahá'í records of the data on Bahá'í population of India
shows that one time it had crossed two millions yet the Census of India
reports of 1971, 1981, 1991 and 2001 show only a fraction of the total
number Bahá'ís throughout the country. This means that the census
department of India fumbled four times to give accurate number of
Bahá'ís. Just to cite an example, Bahá'í census figures in 1991 was 5575
and in 2001 it was 11,324 against 2.2 millions claimed by the Bahá'í
administration.
Conversion Classes in India
The Baha'is teaching Baha'i prayers in their moral (Conversion) classes in India. Although deceptive conversion is banned in India and many times the Baha'is have been warned and taken to the police.
Shocking disclosure by BAHÁ'Í NEWS I N D I A
The recent monthly circulation of Baha'is, The BAHÁ'Í NEWS I N D I A ISSUE VII JULY 2010 has revealed shocking facts, through an article titled “Preparations of Government of India Census 2011”, These are summarized as under:
1. There have been rigorous conversion activities over the past fifty years by the Baha’i Faith.
2. These conversions were accelerated with the construction of the Lotus Temple at Delhi and with the visits of Hands of the Cause Dr. Rahmatulláh Muhájir, and Amatu'l- Bahá Ruhiyyih Khánum.
3. Though the Baha’i records of the data on Baha’i population shows that one time it had crossed two millions yet the Census of India reports of 1971, 1981, 1991 and 2001 show only a fraction of the total number Baha'is throughout the country. This means that the census department of India fumbled four times to give accurate number of Baha'is. Just to cite an example, Baha’i census figures in 1991 was 5575 and in 2001 it was 11,324 against 2.2 millions claimed by the Baha’i administration.
A NOTABLE ACT BY NATIONAL SPIRITUAL ASSEMBLY OF THE BAHA’IS OF INDIA
Baha’i population now stands at 6 millions minus 2.2 millions
It is indeed a notable act that the National Spiritual Assembly of the Bahais of India deleted the figure “2.2 million Bahais” from Official site of Bahais of India. But it is equally regretted that the actual number of Bahais which is 11324 was not put instead to give the exact number of Bahais to its viewers and as a mark of respect for the dedicated census official of India who went door to door for carrying out such a huge census.
The Number of Local Spiritual Assemblies in India
As the Bahai administration is dishonest in reporting the number of Bahais in India. Similarly they show the same duplicity and dishonesty in reporting the number of Local spiritual Assemblies of India as well.This emphatically reveals that there is something indeed wrong about the aim and purpose of bahai administration.
I do not know how to solve the above problem, except to be completely honest and open to the Bahais of India and to people who may be interested in the Faith. It does little good to 'hide' things,It may be very unpleasant for the bahai who comes to know the things after a few years in the Faith.At that time he will feel cheated and left with only two options either to leave the Faith or become disenchanted.
NUMBER OF LSAs In India
The number of LSAs can be classified into three groups
1-Pre Muhajir Era (1923 to 1954)
The National Spiritual Assembly was formed in 1923. Since then till 1954 in roughly 30 years there were only 30 lsas reported.
2-Muhajir Era (1956 to 1983)
This era was from 1956 to 1984. In span of 28 years, the number of LSA reported was 10,000.
3-Post Muhajir Era (1984 to 2010)
Then since 1992 the number of LSAs started decreasing and at present the Bahai administration claims to be 500 LSA in India which is just 5% of the LSAs reported in 1984.
According to me the actual number of LSA in any state is not more than 10.The working LSAs are only few metropolitican cities which has a substantial Persian bahais like Mumbai, Pune Panchgani etc.
Conclusion
Believe me, I observed this phenomenon over and over during my years as a Baha'i.
1-Bahai Faith is essentially a NGO dominated and run by Persians. The Indians are kept away from the membership of important committees and they are suppose to do all the running to gather all the false statistics
2-It is clear that Mr.Mohajir was sent by the House to exaggerate the census.A job intrusted to Mr. Omid at present.
3-The purpose was to give a false impression to the Govt. of India and the whole world that the Bahai Faith has truly become a world religion.
4-To acquire minority status in India.
Former member of NSA of India
Baha'i Population in India - A Report
I-During my time as a Baha'i, I saw potential converts lied to by Baha'is regarding the membership of the Faith. The Baha'is, especially the Baha'i leadership, have always grossly inflated the 'official' numbers in order to present an inaccurate picture to the world (as well as toindividuals considering conversion) and to make the Faith seem much more successful and influential than it really is. The Faith is really a 'footnote' religion, in my view, and all the peace/race unity statements and p. r. in the world will not change this.…I do not know how to solve the above problem, except to be completely honest and open to the public and to people who may be interested in the Faith. It does little good to 'hide' things regarding the Faith that may be unpleasant or misunderstood, intending to reveal these things later when the new Baha'i has been in the Faith for a few years. If people feel that they've had the wool pulled over their eyes, they will leave or become disenchanted. Believe me, I observedthis phenomenon over and over during my years as a Baha'i.These are just some friendly observations from someone who is familiar with Baha'i matters.Wishing everyone the best.
Shalom Scott
II-Juan Cole (a professor of religious history and studies at the University of Michigan) commented in April 2001 that, since 1968, 50% of the people who entered the bahai faith have left it. 50% is truly a remarkably high number and reveals emphatically that something is indeed wrong about the atmosphere within the bahai faith, once one has declared one's belief and is taken into the fold to be properly censored, coerced, and manipulated....Bahai fanatics online exude the same duplicity and dishonesty the new adherent quickly comes to realize is normative behind the facade of love and brotherhood.The Baha'i census that claim 6 to 7.2 million adherents is -A LIE- A LIE- an actual exaggeration of the real numbers.
Interesting Comment by S. Khare (Bhopal,INDIA)
Dear Sir
Your article about Baha’i census is well written and well researched. It is absolutely true that Baha'i s exaggerate their numbers many fold so as to project that they are accepted by the masses. I feel that the situation is not just in India but must be in every country.
There are a few more reason so as to how the Baha'i s calculate their exaggerated number.
A-Once a Baha’i is registered in their record (By whatever means) he becomes immortal and he never dies. So the Indian Baha’i census has all those Bahais who registered themselves since the time of Abdul Baha and Shoghi effendi.
B-It is a universal phenomenon, every where that Bahais usually signed the card not knowing that it is an independent religion. After his realization he leaves the Faith and he is no more a Bahai. But the Baha’i administration believes that “Once a Baha’i Always a Baha’i”. The process is irreversible.
C-Bahais usually multiply their number many folds thinking that every Baha’i must be married and therefore must be having a wife and few children.
D-Those paid workers in the Baha’i Faith, to justify their salaries and their effectiveness have collected a number of non existing addresses
Reality of Bahai faith is assessed after ,

